Josh Zegen recently sat down with Behind The Bricks’ Peter Von Der Ahe to discuss Zegen’s journey from his early days as an entrepreneur to co-founding Madison Realty Capital, one of the most successful debt investment companies operating in the country. Zegen tells the story of how he and his Madison Realty Capital Co-Founder Brian Shatz began working together when they were college roommates and developed the strategic thinking that he has carried into his work at MRC. “You don’t have to do exactly what everyone else is doing,” says Zegen. “Matter of fact, when everyone else is doing it, it’s probably the wrong time to be doing it.”

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